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		<title>By: Gaurav</title>
		<link>http://www.startupdunia.com/india-startups/tweetknot-enables-you-to-form-groups-on-twitter-2309#comment-17938</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaurav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and I thought it was &quot;arrange marriages&quot; through Twitter. No, seriously!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and I thought it was &#8220;arrange marriages&#8221; through Twitter. No, seriously!</p>
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		<title>By: Rajat</title>
		<link>http://www.startupdunia.com/india-startups/tweetknot-enables-you-to-form-groups-on-twitter-2309#comment-17935</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add to my previous comment 
http://www.ismashphone.com/2009/06/15-apps-rendered-obsolete-by-the-new-iphone-.html

These apps were added to iphone earlier but the new version of iphone ships them as features.Something similar can happen to TweetKnot (and they should make money somehow before that happens)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add to my previous comment<br />
<a href="http://www.ismashphone.com/2009/06/15-apps-rendered-obsolete-by-the-new-iphone-.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ismashphone.com/2009/06/15-apps-rendered-obsolete-by-the-new-iphone-.html</a></p>
<p>These apps were added to iphone earlier but the new version of iphone ships them as features.Something similar can happen to TweetKnot (and they should make money somehow before that happens)</p>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://www.startupdunia.com/india-startups/tweetknot-enables-you-to-form-groups-on-twitter-2309#comment-17928</link>
		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the twitter world..!</description>
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		<title>By: Rajat</title>
		<link>http://www.startupdunia.com/india-startups/tweetknot-enables-you-to-form-groups-on-twitter-2309#comment-17927</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said Rohan.I totally agree with you.
Mostly startups based on social networks try to get the users first and then think of making money.I personally donot agree to this thinking, i think startups should think of making money from the first step onwards.What if Twitter adds this feature to their site themselves, in that case TweetKnot will be wiped out in a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said Rohan.I totally agree with you.<br />
Mostly startups based on social networks try to get the users first and then think of making money.I personally donot agree to this thinking, i think startups should think of making money from the first step onwards.What if Twitter adds this feature to their site themselves, in that case TweetKnot will be wiped out in a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Krish</title>
		<link>http://www.startupdunia.com/india-startups/tweetknot-enables-you-to-form-groups-on-twitter-2309#comment-17926</link>
		<dc:creator>Krish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rightly pointed. All I would like to say are we rightly placed and informed to judge the &quot;enterpreneur idea&quot;. Or otherwise we would have ended up calling Google as &quot;me too&quot; idea in 1990s when Yahoo and altavista and lycos were doing failry good job...

So, there is always a chance that an innovation is being cooked within &quot;Copy an idea&quot; ..and its the time which give it flying colors...

I would in fact say that only people with good money want to copy idea as they could pump money in marketing...Pl correct me if I am mistaken in my opinion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rightly pointed. All I would like to say are we rightly placed and informed to judge the &#8220;enterpreneur idea&#8221;. Or otherwise we would have ended up calling Google as &#8220;me too&#8221; idea in 1990s when Yahoo and altavista and lycos were doing failry good job&#8230;</p>
<p>So, there is always a chance that an innovation is being cooked within &#8220;Copy an idea&#8221; ..and its the time which give it flying colors&#8230;</p>
<p>I would in fact say that only people with good money want to copy idea as they could pump money in marketing&#8230;Pl correct me if I am mistaken in my opinion</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan</title>
		<link>http://www.startupdunia.com/india-startups/tweetknot-enables-you-to-form-groups-on-twitter-2309#comment-17925</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, success needs perseverance - may not be instant. But only if you are &quot;innovating&quot; the product, not if you are &quot;copying&quot; it! Innovation is uncertain, but copying an innovation is certain. When you are copying it, you already know the procedures, the market parameters, etc. So all it takes is marketing to make money.

I have observed this all the time: That most &quot;entrepreneurs&quot; are so seduced by their idea that they end up applying motivational principles to situation which cannot take them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, success needs perseverance &#8211; may not be instant. But only if you are &#8220;innovating&#8221; the product, not if you are &#8220;copying&#8221; it! Innovation is uncertain, but copying an innovation is certain. When you are copying it, you already know the procedures, the market parameters, etc. So all it takes is marketing to make money.</p>
<p>I have observed this all the time: That most &#8220;entrepreneurs&#8221; are so seduced by their idea that they end up applying motivational principles to situation which cannot take them.</p>
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		<title>By: Krish</title>
		<link>http://www.startupdunia.com/india-startups/tweetknot-enables-you-to-form-groups-on-twitter-2309#comment-17923</link>
		<dc:creator>Krish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy boy boy...! You seem to be struck hard! Anyways, everyone is entitled to have his set of opinions which might be incorrect.

Rohan, all that is matter is &quot;Success&quot;. Ok that facebook is copied, but enterpreneurship lies in the fact of &quot;sense of timing&quot;, being at the right place  and an eye to spot the opportunity. Whethar you do it as an hobby and otherwise is I guess irrelevant.

And, as said in Gita..what matters is &quot;Karma&quot;..without giving too much relevance to so called and misused by so many as &quot;Heard mentality&quot; or &quot;Me too&quot; for many upcoming ideas...

If the guy involved has that level of faith, forget about idea, a mountain could be shaken...

So, Rohan, you might want to look into why you failed. Probably you gave up too early by giving lot of importance to immediate result without even harping on how to innovate and create  killer value addition for the user...

cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy boy boy&#8230;! You seem to be struck hard! Anyways, everyone is entitled to have his set of opinions which might be incorrect.</p>
<p>Rohan, all that is matter is &#8220;Success&#8221;. Ok that facebook is copied, but enterpreneurship lies in the fact of &#8220;sense of timing&#8221;, being at the right place  and an eye to spot the opportunity. Whethar you do it as an hobby and otherwise is I guess irrelevant.</p>
<p>And, as said in Gita..what matters is &#8220;Karma&#8221;..without giving too much relevance to so called and misused by so many as &#8220;Heard mentality&#8221; or &#8220;Me too&#8221; for many upcoming ideas&#8230;</p>
<p>If the guy involved has that level of faith, forget about idea, a mountain could be shaken&#8230;</p>
<p>So, Rohan, you might want to look into why you failed. Probably you gave up too early by giving lot of importance to immediate result without even harping on how to innovate and create  killer value addition for the user&#8230;</p>
<p>cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan</title>
		<link>http://www.startupdunia.com/india-startups/tweetknot-enables-you-to-form-groups-on-twitter-2309#comment-17919</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the probability that twitter itself will not implement this idea? Why do you think twitter will just sit back and allow a derivative of it to have all the fun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the probability that twitter itself will not implement this idea? Why do you think twitter will just sit back and allow a derivative of it to have all the fun?</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
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		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramya,

Facebook was a copied project...... not a hobby.... Zuckerberg stole the code.... we all know that.....

I agree that twitter is one of the many startups not making money....

But I think it is not important for startups to make money on day1 ...... if the response is good..... it will be a good take over candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramya,</p>
<p>Facebook was a copied project&#8230;&#8230; not a hobby&#8230;. Zuckerberg stole the code&#8230;. we all know that&#8230;..</p>
<p>I agree that twitter is one of the many startups not making money&#8230;.</p>
<p>But I think it is not important for startups to make money on day1 &#8230;&#8230; if the response is good&#8230;.. it will be a good take over candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramya</title>
		<link>http://www.startupdunia.com/india-startups/tweetknot-enables-you-to-form-groups-on-twitter-2309#comment-17913</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rohan, you are right that Indian startups are not thinking much about making money but same is case with Twitter. They never had any revenue model in mind and even their real time search idea came to their mind only once they are popular.
Also Rohan, Facebook started as a hobby project and grew to become one of Internet Giants. So there is no difference between a hobby project and startup except the name. Let the guys try out who knows the next google can be from India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohan, you are right that Indian startups are not thinking much about making money but same is case with Twitter. They never had any revenue model in mind and even their real time search idea came to their mind only once they are popular.<br />
Also Rohan, Facebook started as a hobby project and grew to become one of Internet Giants. So there is no difference between a hobby project and startup except the name. Let the guys try out who knows the next google can be from India.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan</title>
		<link>http://www.startupdunia.com/india-startups/tweetknot-enables-you-to-form-groups-on-twitter-2309#comment-17908</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But hows does this one make money?

I would like to make another point here. I am referring to startups in general, not specific to the one covered in this post:

The herd mentality is just too common. There are very few startups that will actually add value to the end user, and much fewer that will actually make even decent money. More and more startups provide the same solution to the same problem. Finally, it gets reduced to just &quot;Hey! my site is coded and designed better than your site&quot; rather than &quot;Hey! I solve this problem quicker than you&quot;. Web 2.0 may have simplified procedures, but doing business with it is the challenge. It does not take more than 2 months to code(read as rip-off) a web application....but it takes months and perhaps years to make money from it. Selling the service is still a big challenge. Coding a application isn&#039;t. Overall, it seems that the so called &quot;entrepreneur&quot; is more obsessed with what he can do rather what the end user wants. More and more &quot;hobby projects&quot; are being miscategorized  as &quot;startups&quot; and people thinking of themselves as &quot;entrepreneurs&quot;.

My words may be harsh, but definitely not harsher than reality! And I am speaking in-general of the startup scenario.

I have left entrepreneurship(because I failed out of my own foolishness, but my luck shone in stocks) - but I will request every entrepreneur to take a hard-and-brutal look at whatever your business is. Don&#039;t be in a haste to tag it as a &quot;startup&quot; and yourself as an &quot;entrepreneur&quot; until you really feel it can make some money. If not, let it be a hobby project. The illusion is that you are an &quot;entrepreneur&quot; is very dangerous. It like when you are too close to the object, you can&#039;t look at it the way it looks to the world. Also, always allow the enthusiasm to wane off before deciding on an idea. When enthused, every idea looks like a million dollar one even if its not work a penny. After the enthu is lost, most just keep moving round-n-round in the loop and breaking out upwards is unlikely. Infact, most will lose momentum while in the look and totally break down.

Thank you, and sorry for throwing cold water on anybody&#039;s enthusiasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But hows does this one make money?</p>
<p>I would like to make another point here. I am referring to startups in general, not specific to the one covered in this post:</p>
<p>The herd mentality is just too common. There are very few startups that will actually add value to the end user, and much fewer that will actually make even decent money. More and more startups provide the same solution to the same problem. Finally, it gets reduced to just &#8220;Hey! my site is coded and designed better than your site&#8221; rather than &#8220;Hey! I solve this problem quicker than you&#8221;. Web 2.0 may have simplified procedures, but doing business with it is the challenge. It does not take more than 2 months to code(read as rip-off) a web application&#8230;.but it takes months and perhaps years to make money from it. Selling the service is still a big challenge. Coding a application isn&#8217;t. Overall, it seems that the so called &#8220;entrepreneur&#8221; is more obsessed with what he can do rather what the end user wants. More and more &#8220;hobby projects&#8221; are being miscategorized  as &#8220;startups&#8221; and people thinking of themselves as &#8220;entrepreneurs&#8221;.</p>
<p>My words may be harsh, but definitely not harsher than reality! And I am speaking in-general of the startup scenario.</p>
<p>I have left entrepreneurship(because I failed out of my own foolishness, but my luck shone in stocks) &#8211; but I will request every entrepreneur to take a hard-and-brutal look at whatever your business is. Don&#8217;t be in a haste to tag it as a &#8220;startup&#8221; and yourself as an &#8220;entrepreneur&#8221; until you really feel it can make some money. If not, let it be a hobby project. The illusion is that you are an &#8220;entrepreneur&#8221; is very dangerous. It like when you are too close to the object, you can&#8217;t look at it the way it looks to the world. Also, always allow the enthusiasm to wane off before deciding on an idea. When enthused, every idea looks like a million dollar one even if its not work a penny. After the enthu is lost, most just keep moving round-n-round in the loop and breaking out upwards is unlikely. Infact, most will lose momentum while in the look and totally break down.</p>
<p>Thank you, and sorry for throwing cold water on anybody&#8217;s enthusiasm.</p>
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