Comments on: The obsession of Indians with the MBA degree http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417 Indian startups | Entrepreneurship | India Internet Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:21:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: MK http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-20338 MK Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:13:18 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-20338 if not too late here are my comments for Ragav. Following are my views. when you manage you manage some thing. if you understand the buissiness and the technology it is connected with it may be far more easier to manage efficiently. In the current world you will need to know how the tech works if not create it yourself. if you do not have BE/Btech you will need some thing similar outside of acadamic degree probably going through training etc. While an MDA does introduce introduce you to some tools that you will need to aquire through reading books going through personal/paid training etc. In all cases education is education that exposes you to available knowledge. It is upto you how much you understand and apply in real world PROBLEM SOLVING to improve others lives and in the process improve your own. even if you are an investor/banker, its easier to invest in what you understand than you do not. Think more based on your own experiences probably childhood/college/etc if not too late here are my comments for Ragav. Following are my views.

when you manage you manage some thing. if you understand the buissiness and the technology it is connected with it may be far more easier to manage efficiently. In the current world you will need to know how the tech works if not create it yourself. if you do not have BE/Btech you will need some thing similar outside of acadamic degree probably going through training etc. While an MDA does introduce introduce you to some tools that you will need to aquire through reading books going through personal/paid training etc. In all cases education is education that exposes you to available knowledge. It is upto you how much you understand and apply in real world PROBLEM SOLVING to improve others lives and in the process improve your own.

even if you are an investor/banker, its easier to invest in what you understand than you do not. Think more based on your own experiences probably childhood/college/etc

]]> By: Plastic Household Items http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-20128 Plastic Household Items Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:35:55 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-20128 Today is not the time to run for degree because there is no assurance for the highest salary. Sometimes, after spending lot's of money on course we could not get that much money back which we spend on it. I think that the most important thing is your experience because experience gives practical knowledge which works and help you on your work place. Today is not the time to run for degree because there is no assurance for the highest salary. Sometimes, after spending lot’s of money on course we could not get that much money back which we spend on it. I think that the most important thing is your experience because experience gives practical knowledge which works and help you on your work place.

]]> By: mukesh http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-20086 mukesh Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:34:59 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-20086 click on my name and check out some interesting points....click on my name above. :) click on my name and check out some interesting points….click on my name above. :)

]]> By: mukesh http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-20085 mukesh Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:33:31 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-20085 yes all these courses are crap...wasting so much time and money and then no surity of your future. yes all these courses are crap…wasting so much time and money and then no surity of your future.

]]> By: mukesh http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-20084 mukesh Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:31:50 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-20084 i completely agree with you...click on my name to know more and have fun guys i completely agree with you…click on my name to know more and have fun guys

]]> By: mukesh http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-20083 mukesh Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:30:30 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-20083 mba is not a big deal these days friends.....working hard for a degree to graduate and then doing mba.....it doesn't ensures your job at some big place. mba is not a big deal these days friends…..working hard for a degree to graduate and then doing mba…..it doesn’t ensures your job at some big place.

]]> By: Soumadri Roy http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19894 Soumadri Roy Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:57:32 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19894 *found *found

]]> By: Soumadri Roy http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19893 Soumadri Roy Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:56:04 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19893 Totally agree with you. This is the thing ate my head for some long time, finally also sound who's the culprit here. Totally agree with you. This is the thing ate my head for some long time, finally also sound who’s the culprit here.

]]> By: johnson http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19794 johnson Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:38:11 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19794 really good but more work required really good but more work required

]]> By: Bernd http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19739 Bernd Mon, 27 Dec 2010 06:59:12 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19739 Very interesting article and comments on this page! I stumbled over this article when googling "Why do all indians have MBAs?". Yes, i am not Indian but German and i have been working for 6 years now. It always struck me as odd that so many Indians seem to have MBAs or pursue one sooner or later (rather sooner). The weirdest encounter i had was a 20-year old with a MBA (?!) Well, now i understand a little more about why this is so en vogue in India... Thanks for the insight. Very interesting article and comments on this page!
I stumbled over this article when googling “Why do all indians have MBAs?”. Yes, i am not Indian but German and i have been working for 6 years now. It always struck me as odd that so many Indians seem to have MBAs or pursue one sooner or later (rather sooner).
The weirdest encounter i had was a 20-year old with a MBA (?!)
Well, now i understand a little more about why this is so en vogue in India…
Thanks for the insight.

]]> By: Journalist http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19641 Journalist Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:28:15 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19641 Great one. Might get in touch with you for re-publish rights or for quoting you :) Great one. Might get in touch with you for re-publish rights or for quoting you :)

]]> By: Arjun http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19431 Arjun Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:21:00 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19431 Nice article and insightful comments .So basically ->If not MBA then the entrepreneurial route , if not the entrepreneurial route then some "jugaad" ,if not jugaad then back to a coding job ? I have a pretty decent resume showing my business ,sales and marketing acumen for a software company. I'm 22 and no opportunity to get a marketing job . I guess I'l have to get myself an MBA degree , certifying that I have the business acumen , certifying that I can communicate well , certifying that I can manage well , certifying that I can solve any situation , Giving the market the confidence that "HE" is the right candidate !!! Nice article and insightful comments .So basically ->If not MBA then the entrepreneurial route , if not the entrepreneurial route then some “jugaad” ,if not jugaad then back to a coding job ?

I have a pretty decent resume showing my business ,sales and marketing acumen for a software company.

I’m 22 and no opportunity to get a marketing job .

I guess I’l have to get myself an MBA degree , certifying that I have the business acumen , certifying that I can communicate well , certifying that I can manage well , certifying that I can solve any situation , Giving the market the confidence that “HE” is the right candidate !!!

]]> By: Jameel Iqbal http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19406 Jameel Iqbal Sun, 25 Jul 2010 07:18:16 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19406 If not from salary, they definately look forward for the dowry it is able to fetch If not from salary, they definately look forward for the dowry it is able to fetch

]]> By: sushant http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19322 sushant Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:56:43 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19322 totally agree with you.The way a person writes speaks loads about his/her personality.We Indians think that to write and speak in slang is the "American" way, but little do we know that Americans only when writing do not write in slang language.So called advancement in India is all trash.And also i agree with the fact that Indian B-schools have a misguided approach taking in freshers each year rather than experienced candidates.Getting to know how business is done real time is a different experience .US Schools have a minimum range of 4-5 years when accepting a candidate.Our policy is still 40 years old and shows in the way business is done in India. totally agree with you.The way a person writes speaks loads about his/her personality.We Indians think that to write and speak in slang is the “American” way, but little do we know that Americans only when writing do not write in slang language.So called advancement in India is all trash.And also i agree with the fact that Indian B-schools have a misguided approach taking in freshers each year rather than experienced candidates.Getting to know how business is done real time is a different experience .US Schools have a minimum range of 4-5 years when accepting a candidate.Our policy is still 40 years old and shows in the way business is done in India.

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="701937318">Ragav Vendra</fb:name> http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19311 Ragav Vendra Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:40:02 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19311 I have a genuine question. Why do students in India do their BE or B.tech. in the first place when they know they're not going to work in that area? And why don't they directly go for an undergraduate course in "Business Administration"? Why BE and *then* a MBA? They aren't even compatible together! Someone please enlighten me!

I have a genuine question.

Why do students in India do their BE or B.tech. in the first place when they know they’re not going to work in that area? And why don’t they directly go for an undergraduate course in “Business Administration”? Why BE and *then* a MBA? They aren’t even compatible together!

Someone please enlighten me!

]]> By: rajatgarg http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19309 rajatgarg Wed, 26 May 2010 20:53:02 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19309 Stupid blog. Misses the entire point. Indians are obsessed with the MBA degree, because the market is obsessed with the same. When the market decides to place a b-grade mba with 0-1 yr of work ex to boss a team of 4 IIT engineers who have toiled for 2 yrs, what do the IITians do? Crack CAT and get into an IIM. The point about entre. Speak to a few VCs. Pose as an mba, show them the plan. Do the same without saying that you have an mba. Find out for yourselves how easy it is to get funding once you have that degree with you. Stupid blog. Misses the entire point. Indians are obsessed with the MBA degree, because the market is obsessed with the same.
When the market decides to place a b-grade mba with 0-1 yr of work ex to boss a team of 4 IIT engineers who have toiled for 2 yrs, what do the IITians do? Crack CAT and get into an IIM.
The point about entre. Speak to a few VCs. Pose as an mba, show them the plan. Do the same without saying that you have an mba. Find out for yourselves how easy it is to get funding once you have that degree with you.

]]> By: Rahul Jawale http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19298 Rahul Jawale Tue, 18 May 2010 15:49:48 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19298 Your thoughts totally make sense. I had been in this dilemma for quite a long time. I had sustained this parental and peer pressure myself and tried convicing myself and parents that doing MBA does not a prove a thing. All that matters is the passion for something, hardwork and some luck. And ofcourse, MBA is one of those courses which can be done at anytime in your life when you really think that expanding a perspective is going to help. Your thoughts totally make sense.

I had been in this dilemma for quite a long time. I had sustained this parental and peer pressure myself and tried convicing myself and parents that doing MBA does not a prove a thing. All that matters is the passion for something, hardwork and some luck.

And ofcourse, MBA is one of those courses which can be done at anytime in your life when you really think that expanding a perspective is going to help.

]]> By: Indian http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19254 Indian Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:57:45 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19254 @Ashish -- Well I had to stop reading your post past the first few lines! Learn to write in English the way it is meant to be written, without the use of slangs and by using correct spellings. What makes you think an MBA will take you any further in your career if you cannot articulate your thoughts maturely by constructing readable sentences? I'm an Indian living in the US, but I see too many people like you from India who have never been outside the country think that writing "dat" for "that", and "u" for "you" is something every one in west does. NO! Unless you're a 15 year old teenager no one writes like that here! So before you have big aspirations about completing that MBA and thinking that you'll be managing a bunch of people, learn to write correctly! @Ashish — Well I had to stop reading your post past the first few lines! Learn to write in English the way it is meant to be written, without the use of slangs and by using correct spellings. What makes you think an MBA will take you any further in your career if you cannot articulate your thoughts maturely by constructing readable sentences? I’m an Indian living in the US, but I see too many people like you from India who have never been outside the country think that writing “dat” for “that”, and “u” for “you” is something every one in west does. NO! Unless you’re a 15 year old teenager no one writes like that here! So before you have big aspirations about completing that MBA and thinking that you’ll be managing a bunch of people, learn to write correctly!

]]> By: rohit http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19233 rohit Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:20:21 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19233 I totally agree with the content and the point of view put forth in the write up. But somewhere down the line the market currrently is asking for management graduates, and hence there is a need for doing mba. To climb the ladder its has become a necessity. And ofcourse with elevation in the designation, comes higher pay packets. So what is the harm in thinking that MBA will give higher pay packets. I totally agree with the content and the point of view put forth in the write up. But somewhere down the line the market currrently is asking for management graduates, and hence there is a need for doing mba. To climb the ladder its has become a necessity. And ofcourse with elevation in the designation, comes higher pay packets. So what is the harm in thinking that MBA will give higher pay packets.

]]> By: Vicky Pradhan http://www.startupdunia.com/entrepreneurship/the-obsession-of-indians-with-the-mba-degree-2417#comment-19205 Vicky Pradhan Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:55:39 +0000 http://www.startupdunia.com/?p=2417#comment-19205 Indians are famous about being obsessed by one profession or another. Earlier it was IAS, doctor, lawyer, engineer, currently it is MBA. Well considering the chronological events i think this MBA fascination will also fade soon. For me MBA is done by 2 types of people, A – These are the majority, who want a good life, nice salary so that they can buy a good house and afford the EMI’s, get a nice wife or husband (probably a handsome dowry in case of few), nice position in the company with subordinates and possibly getting a window office in the future. B – People for whom MBA schools are the place to understand actual business, learn the tricks, empower yourself in becoming the Ambani’s and TATA’s of the world. To talk about MBA for me personally and Type B people like me, it is the most overrated degree in the world. Not much practical knowledge imparted, just analysing past events and prodding the success and running down the failure. I believe much more can be learnt by someone if he or she puts in that money to start their new venture. Trust me, i have done both, so i know. It’s like if you want to swim, why sit by the shore for two years and then probably lose the zeal to swim. If you want to start your own business, start it don't waste the money and 2 years of your life just to get a degree. Off course you will make lots of mistakes, well who hasn’t. And for the Type A kind, i believe one should treat it as an investment, and make a wise decision. Considering job market is getting filled with MBA, with large supply leading to drop in salaries. Vicky Pradhan Founding Member, bharatbuy.com Indians are famous about being obsessed by one profession or another. Earlier it was IAS, doctor, lawyer, engineer, currently it is MBA. Well considering the chronological events i think this MBA fascination will also fade soon.

For me MBA is done by 2 types of people,

A – These are the majority, who want a good life, nice salary so that they can buy a good house and afford the EMI’s, get a nice wife or husband (probably a handsome dowry in case of few), nice position in the company with subordinates and possibly getting a window office in the future.

B – People for whom MBA schools are the place to understand actual business, learn the tricks, empower yourself in becoming the Ambani’s and TATA’s of the world.

To talk about MBA for me personally and Type B people like me, it is the most overrated degree in the world. Not much practical knowledge imparted, just analysing past events and prodding the success and running down the failure.

I believe much more can be learnt by someone if he or she puts in that money to start their new venture. Trust me, i have done both, so i know.

It’s like if you want to swim, why sit by the shore for two years and then probably lose the zeal to swim.

If you want to start your own business, start it don’t waste the money and 2 years of your life just to get a degree. Off course you will make lots of mistakes, well who hasn’t.

And for the Type A kind, i believe one should treat it as an investment, and make a wise decision. Considering job market is getting filled with MBA, with large supply leading to drop in salaries.

Vicky Pradhan

Founding Member,

bharatbuy.com

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